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Post by danaswasko on Sept 24, 2014 21:28:17 GMT
On my documents, it says you are allowed a suitcase, and below it says you are allowed hand luggage. Under the hand luggage header it also says luggage with adjustable handles and wheels are not accepted. So, I have a carry on with an adjustable handle and wheels, and a small purse as a hand luggage, will I be okay? I'm pretty sure I am in the rules, but I just want to make sure that the wheels and handle they reference is references go the suitcase and not the hand luggage. I hope that made sense lol
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Post by Boop on Sept 24, 2014 21:52:36 GMT
On my documents, it says you are allowed a suitcase, and below it says you are allowed hand luggage. Under the hand luggage header it also says luggage with adjustable handles and wheels are not accepted. So, I have a carry on with an adjustable handle and wheels, and a small purse as a hand luggage, will I be okay? I'm pretty sure I am in the rules, but I just want to make sure that the wheels and handle they reference is references go the suitcase and not the hand luggage. I hope that made sense lol Hi danaswaski! Telescoping handles and wheels are fine on the piece of luggage you will be stowing under the bus. Carry ons with handles and wheels are not encouraged in the main part of the bus as they won't fit on the overhead space provided. This space is adequate for a small day pack, sweaters, jackets, etc. and purses..........as long as the purse doesn't have wheels or a telescoping handle...lol! You would likely be able to pack your carry on with wheels under the bus...if....space allows. You would be responsible for this carry on up to your room and back down again in the morning, as it is considered a 2nd piece of luggage. A few on this forum have actually had to leave the 2nd piece in the departing hotel and be claimed upon your return back...if....you are returning to the same hotel. I always pack my carry on with wheels inside my larger piece of luggage and as I fill up with souvenirs, usually take it out about 3/4 of the way through the trip. However, I take my chances that there will be room under the bus for this 2nd piece. The drivers are pretty accomplished in stowing all the luggage under the bus though! Depending upon where you are going you may end up in a very small bus/van and there wouldn't be room for a 2nd piece.  |
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Post by chech on Sept 24, 2014 23:17:51 GMT
Yeah, I've been on at least 3 tours where there simply was no room for an extra bag. One man with a regular carryon had to pack his inside his luggage, but he knew it was a possibility and his luggage set fit inside each other quite snugly. On another tour...in Israel...all seven of us fit into a seven seater van. It was physically impossible to put another bag in the back. Even my back pack had to squish between my feet. If anyone had brought a regular carryon, it would have had to go inside their luggage or get left behind.  One thing that might help is if a tour ends and begins at the same city. For example, in Greece, the tour started and finished in Athens. That way, people could leave bags in storage at the hotel. Our hotel was changed on our return, but the luggage had been transported to the other hotel and was waiting.  |
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Post by californian on Sept 25, 2014 0:11:59 GMT
Well, I gave up and mid way on my last tour I bought a "wheely" it's small enough if I ever have to put inside my suitcase, but from now on I will use it on tours. I had to pay a lot for it, and it was a waste of money, considering that I have two or three at home, but I was very happy on the way home walking those long airport corridors. And I figured that if I had to pay excess weight, it would cost anyway. Of course we were only 34 on the coach, but I have been of full coaches and everyone always was able to put the carryon under, never heard the driver say no to anyone. The new coaches are longer I think.
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Post by Boop on Sept 25, 2014 0:30:02 GMT
Well, I gave up and mid way on my last tour I bought a "wheely" it's small enough if I ever have to put inside my suitcase, but from now on I will use it on tours. I had to pay a lot for it, and it was a waste of money, considering that I have two or three at home, but I was very happy on the way home walking those long airport corridors. And I figured that if I had to pay excess weight, it would cost anyway. Of course we were only 34 on the coach, but I have been of full coaches and everyone always was able to put the carryon under, never heard the driver say no to anyone. The new coaches are longer I think. On my BOI and BOS tours I actually had my "wheelie" on the seat next to me...but, in both cases, I was a solo and the buses weren't full so it wasn't an issue. But it really was Russian roulette because you never know until you are there just how full the buses will be.  |
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Post by chech on Sept 25, 2014 1:24:31 GMT
Yup...the main thing is that one is aware of the possibility that they may have to pack it inside their main bag and be prepared to do so if the situation occurs.  |
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Post by californian on Sept 25, 2014 2:14:22 GMT
Yup...the main thing is that one is aware of the possibility that they may have to pack it inside their main bag and be prepared to do so if the situation occurs. Which of course increases the weight of the suitcase...I noticed in 2013 and now again that the coaches are longer, more leg space, and more storage room, I forgot the exact measures, but maybe 3 ft longer? I will ask my grand kids, they have a terrific memory, during the Family Tour we did last year, the TD at one point gave us a questionnaire, mainly for the children to see if they were listening, he had prizes as well, one of the questions was the length of the coach, he mentioned how much bigger it was. |
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Post by Tulips on Sept 25, 2014 7:00:42 GMT
I don't think you can count on them accepting a wheeled carryon. I'm not saying they won't as there are instances where it has happened, but if 40 people did that, I doubt there would be room for all those and main luggage.
I'm not a fan of wheeled carryons because of the amount of space they take up in the overhead bins on planes. A lot of them won't hit lengthwise and have to go in the other way, leaving no one else any space in that bin.
Now is that most airlines in North America are charging for checked baggage, I hope they enforce the sizers for the carryons. Some I have seen souks clearly not gut in those sizers.
Sorry, I may be in the minority here.
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Post by chech on Sept 25, 2014 13:32:10 GMT
Yup...the main thing is that one is aware of the possibility that they may have to pack it inside their main bag and be prepared to do so if the situation occurs. Which of course increases the weight of the suitcase...I noticed in 2013 and now again that the coaches are longer, more leg space, and more storage room, I forgot the exact measures, but maybe 3 ft longer? I will ask my grand kids, they have a terrific memory, during the Family Tour we did last year, the TD at one point gave us a questionnaire, mainly for the children to see if they were listening, he had prices as well, one of the questions was the length of the coach, he mentioned how much bigger it was. That's what I mean by preparing for the possibility of having to pack your carryon in your suitcase. There has to be room and it has to weigh under 50lbs. There's no way we can know what kind of coach is going to be used on tour. A full tour doesn't necessarily mean a regular coach (as indicated by my pic above). That tour to Israel was an Insight tour where one might think it is a coach with extra legroom (but the small print indicates the extra leg room doesn't apply to its Eastern Med tours....and we all know people don't always read the small print..LOL). We didn't get a coach or legroom and barely enough room for our bags. It was a wonder we could breath. When I went to Jordan, we got the small coach - 21 passenger I believe. We had 15 people but had that tour been full, there would have been no room. So, while it's nice to think the chances are that they will be able to store a bag under the bus, we simply cannot go expecting it. As Tulips notes, if everyone did it, even if you got a larger bus, there would be no room. The prudent action would be to be prepared to pack the carryon inside your luggage - making allowance for size and weight. There is also another solution. You can buy a lightweight cart for your non-wheeled carryon. I've seen people use them on tour.   These are a couple of examples. They fold up and/or the handles telescope so that it doesn't take up a lot of room. One person let me lift hers and it was very light. |
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Post by californian on Sept 25, 2014 13:42:41 GMT
Tulips, I was, as you, convinced we could not take a small wheelie, but after seen the size of the backpacks (they had to go under the carriage as well) and how many people took a carry on, I gave up, or rather my back gave up, this last trip we were without out suitcase for over 24 hrs, with one night of ballet included, and no matter what many do, I still like to dress up a little for nights as this, the next day we had half day of touring and the train, I didn't have my wheelie then and I paid the price, made up my mind right then to get a small one as soon as I could. It's rather small and it would fit inside the suitcase or with me in the seat if I have to do it, it's 14"x9"x13". Don't know when my next trip will be (thinking on Majestic Alaska), but it will come with me.
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Post by californian on Sept 25, 2014 13:50:30 GMT
There is also another solution. You can buy a lightweight cart for your non-wheeled carryon. I've seen people use them on tour. These are a couple of examples. They fold up and/or the handles telescope so that it doesn't take up a lot of room. One person let me lift hers and it was very light. I did try that as well, but I bought a very small one so I could put it in my suitcase, didn't work very well, the bag kept sliding off...I guess if it 's a well made and sturdy, it would work. |
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Post by chech on Sept 25, 2014 14:49:16 GMT
The one I saw in a store had a bungee cord that could stretch from the bottom platform to a couple of links on the main shaft. It would keep a bag in place. Any bungee would do the job. Bungees are like duct tape. They keep the world together. |
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Post by californian on Sept 25, 2014 15:20:34 GMT
LOL!, yes, but the base in mine is too small, the cord is not effective, not the bungee cord's fault!
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Post by chongke on Mar 16, 2017 16:39:24 GMT
Hi, I'm going on the Irish highlights tour. My carry on backpack is 18"x12"x6". Do you know if they would make me stow that under the bus?
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